AASFSHNR baby!

We all know Kiva is goodness wrapped in chocolate.

Even better, the AASFSHNR group — Atheists, Agnostics, Skeptics, Freethinkers, Secular Humanists, and the Non Religious — is goodness wrapped in chocolate wrapped in bacon! (Sorry to the vegans on board, just substitute “tofu” for bacon or some similar thing…) :)

I think the discussion on this group has been superb. Of course, as a regular contributor, I may be biased. But it seems to me that caring a lot about other people, and doing so from a particular point of view which is relatively unpopular politically, and talking about it enthusiastically, is a pretty awesome use of the Internet.

I recently pointed out that FriendFeed is also a big bowl of awesome with many groovy applications.

Inspired by my friends at Kiva AASFSHNR, I just created a new group on FriendFeed with the same name (it’s pronounced ass / fuh / shu / ner by the way). I’m hoping it will become a place for rational discussion of issues to do with atheism/agnosticism/religion/politics from a skeptical and secular point of view.

So, here’s an invitation to all people who value critical thinking, who approach life from a skeptical and scientific point of view, and who care about the political health of secular humanism. Join AASFSHNR!

It’s a place to share content you come across in your online travels, and to encourage lively discussion.

By the way, in the group description, I point out how hard it can be to label this kind of a group. It has been noted previously that there are many names we might use, and has even resulted in a campaign to adopt a new name. I may be way off here, but I’m actually kind of hoping that AASFSHNR will take off as a new meme. I don’t get any credit for the neologism if it does. That goes to the founder of the Kiva Group: Peter Kroll.

  • HeatherM
    OK - I have never tried this sort of thing before (Friend Feed) and am rather old and technologically challenged, but game to give it a go.

    So here is an issue I would like feedback comments on from this non-religious international community - without burdening the Kiva website.

    My son, aged 20 and previously healthy, became gravely ill before Christmas - nearly died from about four different things. He is now fine, and it was traumatic, but I have various well-meaning but Christian friends who keep telling me how much they prayed for him.

    Any suitable responses? ( - I have just been smiling and grunting, while in my emails to all friends on the subject, written that he has only survived thanks to expert medical help and equipment, and the fact we live in Australia where public hospitals are completely free and excellent. )

    Heather from Melbourne
  • Hey Heather, you're doing awesome! You found us all on Kiva's email group, and now commenting on a blog! Hope to see you at FriendFeed too! :) (http://www.friendfeed.com/rooms/aasfshnr)

    I think smiling and grunting is a pretty fair response. But I would be very tempted to bark out something like "Yes, well, it was nice of him to intervene on our behalf this time around." I mean, it kind of puts what they're saying in perspective.

    I guess really what many people mean is "I sympathized with your difficult times" (and all they could think to do was ask their imaginary friend for help -- and they want credit for it). Maybe in that light it's fair to ask them to do something practical for you next time (like prepare a meal or do your housecleaning for you). :)
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